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07-26-2013, 08:36 PM,
#31
Lane Splitting / Filtering
Dammit @vie you made me go do research. ;p I'll post my findings (real research DOT and other orgs)

I am pretty comfortable lane splitting. Just prefer not to do it. plus i believe there's very little that should be "illegal" anyways.

The video posted unfortunately points to very few real advantages, other than getting somewhere faster and avoiding being rear ended. However, the main issue I see is lane splitting in high speed situations and on highways.

Additionally, what is the impact on other drivers/riders sharing the road? When I see a cage flying down the highway, weaving in and out of traffic, even it's not close enough for me to be physically impacted, it does distract me. And that makes me dangerous especially when I'm in a cage. Same with bikes. It is distracting. There's this one point (among others) the guy in the video makes regarding people getting freaked out when they see lane splitting and think its dangerous.

It sets the tone for the level and quality of analysis, which isn't all that sophisticated in my opinion. Freaking people out on the road is not a good thing and not to be laughed off. It's like I walk down the street swinging a barbed club around, not intending to hit anyone, but express surprise when people get freaked out by it.
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07-27-2013, 12:36 AM,
#32
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
I only do it very selectively. Only when traffic is completely stopped, on a route I'm very familiar with and never at high speeds. On the freeway, I'll only do it in very wide double yellows that are as wide as it's own lane.
How those guys on the crotch rockets do it in moving traffic at 70mph, I'll never know.

It does actually seem like the safer route though since people might actually see you in their mirrors. Both times I've been hit and every time I'm almost swerved into is when I'm just riding in the middle of the lane like normal.
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07-27-2013, 01:05 AM,
#33
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
@Agspace I will be very interested to read your findings. I would only do it in the situation like to OP vid shows or stationary traffic at the lights, NEVER IN FAST MOVING TRAFFIC, i cringe and shake my head disapprovingly when I see those crotch rockets do it, I have seen it done to pass fast moving prime movers, thats crazy those trailers can sway a foot each way . Remember that's not me in the vid, just some random that has the same bike with the same camera mount, cause it is illegal here ;-)
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07-27-2013, 02:41 AM,
#34
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
(07-26-2013, 08:36 PM)Agspace Wrote: Dammit @vie you made me go do research. ;p I'll post my findings (real research DOT and other orgs)

I am pretty comfortable lane splitting. Just prefer not to do it. plus i believe there's very little that should be "illegal" anyways.

The video posted unfortunately points to very few real advantages, other than getting somewhere faster and avoiding being rear ended. However, the main issue I see is lane splitting in high speed situations and on highways.

Additionally, what is the impact on other drivers/riders sharing the road? When I see a cage flying down the highway, weaving in and out of traffic, even it's not close enough for me to be physically impacted, it does distract me. And that makes me dangerous especially when I'm in a cage. Same with bikes. It is distracting. There's this one point (among others) the guy in the video makes regarding people getting freaked out when they see lane splitting and think its dangerous.

It sets the tone for the level and quality of analysis, which isn't all that sophisticated in my opinion. Freaking people out on the road is not a good thing and not to be laughed off. It's like I walk down the street swinging a barbed club around, not intending to hit anyone, but express surprise when people get freaked out by it.

True, I agree. Fast speed lane splitting is, in my opinion, reckless. I like to believe that the point of lane splitting, is exactly as you said: getting somewhere faster and avoiding being rear ended. I don't believe it should be used for anything else.

When I used to (Not anymore mind you) weave in and out of traffic at about 80 mph, it definitely wasn't because of any of the reasons above. It was more of an adrenaline rush, I see a rider zip passed my and I get on his tail and weave with him. It was reckless, unnecessary, and very dangerous. I've grown a couple years older and a couple years wiser since than.

I think an unaware, distracted cage is more dangerous than a rider responsibly splitting a lane. Like the people in the video said, we have to take safety into our own hands and responsibility of your actions. If you split a lane, you know that there is a possibility of someone getting freaked out and/or not paying attention. But I would much rather move forward to the front of a stopped lane than risk the chance of getting turned into motorcycle-sandwich between two toasty cage buns. Fortunately for the state of CA or other countries, it is common place to see it happening and it's only legal at certain speeds so people are kind of aware of it.

I think a large factor in motorcycle collisions on the free way is due to a lack of presence that riders have on the road. Like @Winchester said, he's been put into dangerous situation while driving normally. Much like my dad, who sold his ZX14 because a crazy super aggressive BMW almost rammed into him because he didn't know he was there. It scared the sh*t out of him! Part of the reason I installed a LOUD *ss slip on to my zx6r when I rode sport. People KNEW I was there! LOL!

I'm looking forward to your research @agspace ! I'll most definitely stay tuned.
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07-27-2013, 09:09 AM,
#35
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
(07-25-2013, 03:22 PM)Agspace Wrote: Ok. I am guessing none of you have driven/ridden in Florida. Most people think turn signals are optional and many snowbirds and tourists. And you know the thing people do where they pull the vehicle all the way to the edge of their lane, sometimes partly into the other lane, to get a better view of whats holding up traffic? Yeah.

I do see some crotchrockets lane split, very rarely for short distances, since it isn't legal. But, they are more agile bikes compared to cruisers.
that's because most of your drivers are collecting social security
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07-27-2013, 09:57 AM,
#36
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
I noticed that in australia drivers hold the right hand edge of the lane of the drivers side edge. but from what I've seen in the u k I hold the left hand edge or the passenger side.

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07-27-2013, 07:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-27-2013, 09:33 PM by ET_Geckoe.)
#37
Re: Lane Splitting / Filtering
Those idiots flying down the highways are not only stupid but they are breaking the law as well. I don't know about other countries but here in California, there are limits the splitting. I think one of us already listed. But I'll put it again. No faster that 39. No faster than the speed limit. No more than 10 faster than traffic.
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07-27-2013, 09:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-27-2013, 09:54 PM by Agspace.)
#38
Lane Splitting / Filtering
(07-27-2013, 09:09 AM)bevo1981 Wrote:
(07-25-2013, 03:22 PM)Agspace Wrote:
that's because most of your drivers are collecting social security

This is true. Lol.

(07-27-2013, 07:57 PM)ET_Geckoe Wrote: Those idiots flying down the highways are not only stupid butthwy are breaking the law as well. I don't know about other countries but here in California, there are limits the splitting. I think one of us already listed. But I'll put it again. No faster that 39. No faster than the speed limit. No more than 10 faster than traffic.

I missed the fact about limits. That makes sense.

This is good literature on bike crashes, not lane splitting. A bit long. Some of the findings were surprising to me. Crazy numbers.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/810834.pdf

The MSF website states lane splitting 'may' have advantages (like reducing likelihood of being rear ended, which I agree with), but there isn't enough research to conclude.
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08-28-2013, 08:27 PM,
#39
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
(08-28-2013, 07:13 PM)commonground Wrote: Just ran across this video and remembered this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlYgTxPNPQU The good ole county boys around here open their doors when stopped to spit out tobaccy juice sometimes. Huh
have to call that one the bikes fault silly place to lane split.
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02-15-2015, 04:05 PM,
#40
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
(04-30-2013, 10:08 PM)jmck Wrote: whatever you call it 2 things I think are true it saves a lot of time in traffic and it is dangerous.
where I live it is illegal, an one day this guy will probably get a fine, (who ever he/she is)

http://youtu.be/JUzZ-Lsw3-Q
I think I will keep my leg in one piece and not try this, one driver with an attitude and its game over
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02-15-2015, 09:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-16-2015, 12:40 AM by Kimsnot.)
#41
Lane Splitting / Filtering
Lol I split lanes almost daily. a few close calls and butthead cage drivers but I go slow enough that I can stop or avoid incidents if needed. I'm sure the bright pink gear helps me stand out.
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02-16-2015, 12:30 AM,
#42
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
(02-15-2015, 04:05 PM)pauli466 Wrote:
(04-30-2013, 10:08 PM)jmck Wrote: whatever you call it 2 things I think are true it saves a lot of time in traffic and it is dangerous.
where I live it is illegal, an one day this guy will probably get a fine, (who ever he/she is)

http://youtu.be/JUzZ-Lsw3-Q
I think I will keep my leg in one piece and not try this, one driver with an attitude and its game over

interesting development here in queensland, lane filtering has just become leagal.
you are not allowed to go over 30km/h and not allowed to do it in certian areas like school zones
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04-29-2015, 01:38 AM,
#43
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
Oh my! That scared me just watching!
There is great need for a sarcasm font.
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04-30-2015, 01:01 AM,
#44
RE: Lane Splitting / Filtering
(05-02-2013, 01:15 PM)zag Wrote: And this one..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNA2HATZ6...ata_player
Yikes! What a jerk! But then Russian driving videos get my adrenaline pumping every time I see these types of idiocy.
There is great need for a sarcasm font.
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