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10-17-2013, 05:17 PM,
#1
Torque specs for oil change?
Hey guys,
Sorry to post something so simple. I searched the forum and couldn't find the info. I need to get another shop manual. Mine went MIA.
Anyway, time for an oil change, and I was wondering if anyone knows the torque specs for the drain plug and filter cover. It's a 2000 650 Custom.
Thanks!
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10-17-2013, 05:21 PM,
#2
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
be interesting to hear for sure, never woulda thought of using a torque wrench for that purpose, never have.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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10-17-2013, 05:24 PM,
#3
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
No, not neccesary? Just do it by feel? I've always done it that way in the past. Thought I'd be accurate this time.
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10-17-2013, 05:33 PM,
#4
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
thats what i have done on bikes, cars and trucks, no problems, but will be interesting to see uhhh hear what your 650 brethren say to it.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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10-17-2013, 06:41 PM,
#5
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
I keep planning to go get a torque wrench but I keep forgetting. Meaning so far I've been "feeling" everything - just like I have on most everything I've worked on for forty years. There are some exceptions. Engine work (cranks, camshafts, head bolts, etc. you really should have a torque wrench). Basically anything where having torque not just correct but even (as on bearing caps, rods, heads, valve covers, etc.) you really want to use a torque wrench unless you've got a very well calibrated arm. :)

A lot of people think that using a torque wrench and torqueing to a spec is to avoid stripping threads or not getting things tight enough. That's true but it's not the whole picture - some things like the above mentioned it is very important to get the torque even across all of the mounting bolts.

I'll almost certainly buy/beg/borrow or steal a torque wrench before I put my new pipes on - that's one of those things you really want to get right because exhaust leaks are such a pain in the backside.

John
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10-17-2013, 06:51 PM,
#6
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
On sump plugs and oil filters and sundry other nuts and bolts, I use "Elbow Tension" except for cylinder head studs or delicate things like con rod bolts etc. where I use a highly accurate tension wrench. Sometimes you can get lost in the technicalities of all things mechanical and tend to go overboard a little. Remember, workshop manuals are your guide, your brain is your mentor!

Otherwise you run the risk of having a tool box or a workshop wall adorned with a zillion dollars worth of tools for which you have used only once in a millennium and highly likely forgotten why you bought it in the first place!!!

Gibbo
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10-17-2013, 06:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-17-2013, 06:55 PM by Vstar T.)
#7
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
@OldePhart - Thanks. That makes sense. I do have to install a new exhaust crush gasket I had to re-use in a pinch while troubleshooting the PCV breather problem. I didn't use a torque wrench with that eiher. Happen to know the torque specs on the pipes? :)
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10-17-2013, 06:55 PM,
#8
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
very very good brother!
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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10-17-2013, 06:58 PM,
#9
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
@Gibbo - Great thinking. I've never used torque wrenches working on my dirt bikes, but all the sudden felt the need to step up and get a torque wrench for the V Star. I see what you mean though. Keep it simple...
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10-17-2013, 07:57 PM,
#10
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
I understand the need for using a torque wrench on a critical part such as an engine. I have seen many bolt failures and pulled threads from over tightening especially in aluminum. There are also 'dry' torque values and 'wet' torque values to consider. Many well meaning folks have over torqued bolts after lubricating them. Go by the OEM specs if at all possible.

BTW I often still use the "Armstrong Method" even though I own a torque wrench. Sad

Here is an informative site: http://raskcycle.com/techtip/webdoc14.html
Never tell someone more than they are willing to hear.
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10-17-2013, 09:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-17-2013, 09:31 PM by Mr RCOM.)
#11
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
Oil filter cover - 7.2 ft/lb

Oil drain bolt - 31 ft/lb

Service manual PDF format - http://650ccnd.com/perf.htm

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10-17-2013, 10:12 PM,
#12
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
there ya go.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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10-18-2013, 06:12 AM,
#13
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
I'm with oldephart & gibbo, except for engine internals, bearing cap etc, I go by feel. I have a half inch drive torque wrench. If I was to torque for the bike I would like a 3/8 drive

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10-21-2013, 12:59 PM,
#14
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
@Mr RCOM - Thank you! That's perfect!
Thakns to everyone who commented. Every opinion counts to me.
This is a great board with great people here.
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10-22-2013, 03:29 AM,
#15
RE: Torque specs for oil change?
No sweat. I rule.... and I guess everyone else does too. Lolz
LoLrcycle rider Cool
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