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09-30-2014, 12:40 PM,
#1
Turn signals cancelling
Just curious as this is my first motorcycle. 04 vstar 1100 classic. Are the turn signal supposed to automatically cancel like on a car? Mine do and was curious what causes the cancellation? I always seem to forget to turn them off sometimes but see they are already off. Another time I was sitting at a light intending on turning right and ended up going straight. After getting through the intersection I thought about the lights and they were off already.
I used to be a mechanic so I know how vehicle turn signals work but this one kinda stumps me. lol
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09-30-2014, 01:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-30-2014, 01:16 PM by commonground.)
#2
RE: Turn signals cancelling
Hi and welcome to the forum if I haven't already greeted you.

Here is a link to a post that I did some time back with the same question. http://www.vstarforum.com/How-s-It-Know-Thread Shy

Augie
Never tell someone more than they are willing to hear.
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09-30-2014, 01:43 PM,
#3
RE: Turn signals cancelling
There's a sensor in the odometer that sends a pulse. On the 650 the pulse goes two places (later models): to the turn signal flasher to cancel the signal after X pulses, and to the engine computer where, whatever it does, it has a huge effect on gas mileage.

The turn signal switch is an interesting bit of design, in that when you push it all the way to one side or the other it sends a reset pulse to the turn signal flasher so it will start flashing again if it has cancelled.
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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09-30-2014, 03:10 PM,
#4
RE: Turn signals cancelling
Thanks! Changing lanes I normally don't forget, its turning corners that I usually forget. Also cant seem to remember that they cancel and get worried they are still on. haha
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09-30-2014, 03:29 PM,
#5
RE: Turn signals cancelling
ok is this only on certain models or on later model years? as do not believe mine auto cancel.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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09-30-2014, 03:30 PM,
#6
RE: Turn signals cancelling
Heh, heh. I pretty much ride down the highway on my 650 alternating trying to shift into sixth and stabbing the turn signal button to make sure they're off, even though I know they cancel and I rarely forget to turn them off anyway. :)

John
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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09-30-2014, 05:32 PM,
#7
RE: Turn signals cancelling
Yeah I reach over and hit it every once in a while. lol
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09-30-2014, 05:36 PM,
#8
RE: Turn signals cancelling
i make any lane change or turn am thumbing it couple times, even later just to make sure.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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09-30-2014, 08:29 PM,
#9
RE: Turn signals cancelling
(09-30-2014, 03:29 PM)Keith Wrote: ok is this only on certain models or on later model years? as do not believe mine auto cancel.

Don't know about the 1100, but in the 650 shop manual I have the schematic indicates that they cancel back to '98 (earliest year covered by the manual). It was the 2005 supplement that showed the additional connection to the engine computer for the 650.

If someone has replaced the turn signal flasher with a generic three-terminal one (perhaps to keep LED signals from hyper flashing, for example), your canceling signals won't cancel.

John
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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10-01-2014, 04:11 PM,
#10
RE: Turn signals cancelling
Mine seem to sometimes cancel and sometimes not. I need to pay more attention...
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10-01-2014, 05:18 PM,
#11
RE: Turn signals cancelling
believe my front signals are factory, back are not, they are landscape reflector bulbs, so am sure they really draw the amps.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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10-01-2014, 06:14 PM,
#12
RE: Turn signals cancelling
(10-01-2014, 05:18 PM)Keith Wrote: believe my front signals are factory, back are not, they are landscape reflector bulbs, so am sure they really draw the amps.
@Keith I'm reasonably sure this isn't what you meant...but it's what my twisted brain "saw" when I read that...
[Image: landscape_signals.jpg]
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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10-01-2014, 06:19 PM,
#13
RE: Turn signals cancelling
hah, do not think they draw much amps.

did like those though, much brighter than the regular brake light. not sure how bright my tombstone is, even if is led is such old tech not too bright even though is a large board.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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10-02-2014, 12:18 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-02-2014, 12:19 AM by jmck.)
#14
RE: Turn signals cancelling
@Oldephart haha, I always knew you would take modification too far

btw my 2006 1100 doesn't cancel perhaps it's broken?
Jmck
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10-02-2014, 09:55 AM,
#15
RE: Turn signals cancelling
(10-02-2014, 12:18 AM)jmck Wrote: @Oldephart haha, I always knew you would take modification too far

btw my 2006 1100 doesn't cancel perhaps it's broken?

Somebody may have replaced the flasher at some point. Also, I don't know about the 1100 but the sending unit in the speedometer cluster on the 650 seems to be pretty delicate. Mine was messed up from the start, and based on how hard it is to get replacements I'm guessing it must be a common problem.

John
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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