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11-10-2014, 11:40 AM,
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Flag_red  2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
Okay. I need some input. Bike tried to start 1 time sat morning (it was 34 degrees).
After that....nothing....not a click or anything. Battery voltage good, lights, horn etc all working fine. Checked ALL fuses....again...fine. So, I remove the seat and check the fuses in the Starter Relay Solenoid. Again, all good....
Being the redneck I am I decided to try the old arc across the solenoid poles method to start the bike. TADA!!! She started right up.
Question: Is my starter solenoid relay bad....OR....is it the Handlebar starter switch....OR....something totally different than what I am thinking.
Any help would be appreciated!!!
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11-10-2014, 12:22 PM,
#2
RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
Just a thought...when it didn't start right up the first time did you maybe then put the stand down...then when you went to try shorting across the solenoid you shifted her to neutral since you couldn't hold the clutch and fiddle with the solenoid?

If that's not the scenario then you basically just need to work through the system checking all the switches and also checking the connections for corrosion. There is a clutch switch, kickstand switch, neutral switch and of course the starter button.

The bike should not crank with the stand down unless it is in neutral. If the stand is up then it can be cranked in any gear position but the clutch has to be pulled if it is not in neutral. (BTW, it is highly recommended that you always start in neutral and with the clutch in - the 1100 is kind of known for having starter drive gear problems and starting in neutral with clutch pulled seems to mitigate them.)

Finally, note that the 1100 and 650 have carb heaters and in cold weather it is good to turn the ignition on and then wait twenty or thirty seconds before hitting the start button. On the 650 there are two "tiers" of heaters - both are on thermostats so they only come on in cold weather and they shut off as the bike warms up. However, the larger of the two also shuts off when the side stand is raised. So, in cold weather it makes sense to leave the stand down, turn the ignition on, wait about thirty seconds, then fire her up. My 650 starts instantly down to below freezing if I do that - but even in the low fifties if I just turn the key and hit the start button it doesn't fire right away and I end up just wasting battery power cranking until the carb heaters do their job.

John
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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11-10-2014, 02:11 PM,
#3
RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
well dang @OldePhart never knew about the heater thing, just used the choke and starts right up. i have more fuses connected to the tool box on the left side so check those also as well.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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11-10-2014, 02:15 PM,
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RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
(11-10-2014, 12:22 PM)OldePhart Wrote: I always start stand down in neutral with clutch lever pulled. I am going to do diagnostics on the starting system from HB switch to solenoid relay and so on this evening. I missed my veterans benefit ride already so I can take my time now.
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11-10-2014, 02:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-10-2014, 02:22 PM by Keith.)
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RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
check the other fuses then if not could be the kickstand switch heard you can jump that to check it.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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11-10-2014, 02:24 PM,
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RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
(11-10-2014, 12:22 PM)OldePhart Wrote: BTW this bike is a 2005 V-Star Silverado 1100 with only 15000mi.
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11-10-2014, 02:36 PM,
#7
RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
yeah, can happen on new bikes, proly not it just something to check on.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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11-10-2014, 03:00 PM,
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RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
(11-10-2014, 02:11 PM)Keith Wrote: well dang @OldePhart never knew about the heater thing, just used the choke and starts right up. i have more fuses connected to the tool box on the left side so check those also as well.

It might just be my 650 but even with the choke out it won't fire instantly in the mid forties unless I've given it ten or twenty seconds for the heaters to work. It took me a couple of cold mornings (and stumbling across the heater schematics in the shop manual) before I realized what was happening because it would start after ten or twenty seconds of cranking when cold. After I realized it had heaters I tried just letting it sit with the ignition on while I buckled my helmet and then it started instantly.

John
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2011 V-Star 650 Custom (new in fall 2013)
V&H Cruzer Pipes, Memphis Shades Bat Wing, Floorboards, Highway Bars,
Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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11-10-2014, 05:45 PM,
#9
RE: 2005 1100 vstar silverado won't start
k will have to try that, yeah mine is not instantly, will experiment with that, maybe just go out n crank her up thursday morn see how it does, supposed to be 30.
2006 VStar Stratoliner, Freedom Performance split dual exhaust, Mustang seats, Sissy bar with back rack, bolted saddlebags to mounts.
Life's tough .. it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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